Fun fact I know Mike (Godwin). I didn’t call anyone “Hitler” though others absolutely did and did not ger banned which was kinda weird. I did imply a dictator and supreme leader but I have no control of inferences. We have had lots of dictators in world history but people seem to like the German guy with a funny mustache.
In any case I would never imply anyone in these forums committed genocide etc. It does seem reasonable to imply a system of leadership where there is totalitarian control and be disappointed in it.
@dicko You meet all the criteria except for flags, so I’ve set you to regular. While it is locked now, I will re-visit and unlock in a few months so that criteria have to be fulfilled again. I just can’t do that now because Discourse will automatically demote you.
@tonyclewis Looking at the criteria for trust level 3 disregarding suspensions/flags/etc you meet it now so I’ve set you to it, for trust level 4 that is a larger discussion which I have created a thread on to get feedback: Trust Level 4 Criteria
Well. I know @dicko, he was a member of the Elastix community forum and I was a moderator and admin. Once you know him. He is a good guy. Maybe a little bloody sometimes, but he is a smart guy and always there to help someone.
Just have a discuss with him in private to find a calm with good words.
You should know that the main problem is some kind of frustration regarding the way FreePBX is becoming.
I really don’t understand, how the adaptation of trust levels can solve the problem. This is a clash of cultures! On one side the founders of freePBX and previous owners & developers and on the other side the current owner of freePBX&Asterisk, Sangoma.
The “old guys” are complaining that Sangoma does not properly maintain freePBX…just reducing the costs to an absolute minimum (>India). They fear that the quality of freePBX will go down.
Sangoma management does not talk to the “old guys”…which further worsens the situation. So, now the forum is full of complaints and end of the world talk.
New users of freePBX get repelled by it. So it’s some kind of self-fulfilling prophecy…
There is not just one problem, but many problems. The problem I’m sorting out right now is getting things to a state on the forum where everyone is comfortable to participate. Cleaning up trust levels is one aspect so things are back to the way they were, and for cases in doing so where community input is warranted I’ll ask for it (such as for the Trust Level 4 discussion).
I’ll also personally push for things on FreePBX itself, but my heart still belongs with Asterisk.
I have hope that everyone going forward can keep a level head and collectively we can all work to improve things in the various ways we each can - including me.
Reading through this, @penguinpbx just makes me furious. Makes me curious how he got a job?
Hope things can start going in the right direction now.
I would fully support a fork.
I understand there are additional problems and one of them is that topic. James has put forth bringing this particular thread to an end, and it will auto-close in 5 hours. For future discussions new topics can be created, or concerns can be added to A new topic to hopefully clear the air, and get as yet unresolved concerns/issues cleared up (such as via a new post on it or linking to a past specific post). I will ensure things are looked at by the appropriate parties. Do be aware that with next week being AstriCon, some responses will likely be delayed (even by me - which is saying something) due to travel and being there.
