Zulu testing on a lan

PBX Firmware:12.7.4-1802-3.sng7
Local Lan with self-signed cert

How does this work?
You have the originate call and softphone. On originate call and the Zulu app will make my desk phone dial out.
When I select softphone I can’t dial out at all. I see nothing in the CLI showing any attempt to dial.
Calling the 99xxxx will not make the phone ring
Calling the extension that is connected to if softphone was working, but now it not ringing anymore.

so the Zulu phone doesn’t need a real cert?
Zulu app is not a WebRTC client?

Does this have anything to do with the Zulu website softphone?

What version of zulu

Zulu client Version 2.1.15

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